The darksides domains
Thursday September 4, 2008 at 1:28 pm CST
Posted by Chris Barton, Research Scientist and Artemis Geek
Inspired by Igor’s post (and whilst Terry is dancing in doorways) I’ve taken some time out from my current project and beaten a path through the tangled web of service providers, registrars, resellers and registrants of the domain name system supporting the darker side of the web.
This investigation originally started when Garth from Knujon pointed out that Directi have some shill registrars on their books (Whilst I was enjoying the Kaiser Chiefs @ Rock en Seine in Paris no less). I then read Brian Krebs post about Atrivo being one of the best known dangerous networks around… He finished with a teaser note about ESTDomains. So guessing whats coming next I’m going to jump the inter-networking gymnastics that binds EST with Atrivo/Intercage/(cernel|inhoster)/Etc, privacy services and others and start at the far end of the story and expose a secret about a not-so-little Indian company called Directi and shine a light on the almost invisible but vital service that powers the domain registration core of the largest group(s) of bad-actors on the web today.
Let me provide some bullet points about the Directi Group of companies to get you up to speed.
- Directi are a privately owned Indian company with a reported turnover in excess of $300M USD.
- Directi own LogicBoxes the maker of a product used to manage the registrar relationship with registries.
- Directi own the reseller Resellerclub.com, and the registrar Answerable.com amongst others.
- Directi own skenzo.com a domain
typo squattingmonetization service. - Directi’s Logicboxes are responsible for over 3.5M domains, about 45K resellers across 50+ ICANN accredited registrars.
- LogicBoxes has no acceptable use policy (AUP) for their service.
That last point is the weak link in the chain. Directi’s Logicboxes provide domain registration automation services under contract but without an AUP, and to organizations that have an un-holy tie to organised crime at that.
LogicBoxes is a software product or turnkey ASP solution but some simple tests (that I’m deliberately withholding for now) prove that it’s software combined with a backend service and Directi are involved at every stage of the game via it’s service-layer even though it looks on the face of it like they aren’t.
(If you don’t understand the cats-cradle of knotted string that holds the domain name registration system together then blame John Levine as he has admitted it’s all his fault and this slide explains it all, “apparently”
).
So on the the murky world of Registrars also being Resellers and why:
ESTDomains, Dynamic Dolphin, to name but a few are huge Directi resellers, and as ICANN accredited registrars also customers of LogicBoxes too. But as Garths and Brian’s posts show there are also many other “shill” registrars and unanswered questions too. However between them they provide a disproportionate amount of domains that are used for illegal activities and most have a path back to Directi’s logicboxes service. I’d estimate the total to be north of 100,000 domains by now, everything from Social networking spam through illegal pharmaceutical supply to botnet command and control.
There is a metric truckload of publicly available evidence for anyone that still doubts the darkness of their hats take a look at the URIBL listings for the last 5 days for ESTdomains. All the linked domains are sites you do not want to click as they contain spam landing pages, fake anti-mailware, porn with fake codecs amongst other things. Why on earth a legitimate registrar would not monitor uribl’s published information and act on it is completely beyond me.
ICANN don’t help the situation by accrediting registrars without a verifiable legitimate address and well publicized & working contacts. We have procurement and vendor qualification processes that’s a real pain some times excellent IMHO, I’ll ask someone to send them a copy
Our friends at Spamhaus have plenty to say about ESTDomains too on many listings, take a look at their nameserver listings for starters SBL53320 SBL53319. Searching ROKSO will reveal a whole lot more. As for Atrivo, it’s a rats nest of issues; A rats nest that would do well to fall off the internet. For more information on the internet-gymnastics I jumped over take a look at this great pdf from hostexploit.com. Keep in mind though that some of the feeder transit networks may be owned or run by the same gang and just exist for redundancy.
The ESTDomains that I’ve investigated first hand have generally fallen into two camps, one where they are registrar directly and one where PublicDomainRegistry is mentioned in the whois, the latter being the “shill” sorry I mean “white labeled Registrar” for the previously mentioned Directi company “resellerclub dot com“. The fact that PrivacyProtect.org is Directi’s whois privacy service (pasted from here) for resellers just makes matters worse.
Don’t get me wrong, Directi have a clue, register a domain directly with a Directi owned registrar and break the AUP and they will act well as any registrar must. I’m specifically talking about the other services they provide to the criminal corners of the web.
It would appear too that the ESTDomains portfolio has had their privacy protection revoked too, this is definitely a step in the right direction. (Breaking news this evening from El Reg and knujon, nice work guys) However, these guys move pretty fast and recently EST moved their privacy needs to their own protectdetails.com domain.
So finally I have to ask those making money by providing the core services Bhavin Turakhia & Divyank Turakhia from Directi, you clearly know the score, so when will you completely stop supporting the illegal acts of EST, DD and other very obvious darkside entities and kick the bad apples out?
Before anyone from a registry or registrar starts the classic “Smith & Wesson” rant think about this, “Smith and Wesson” don’t sell maps or cars, drive you to the forest, apply your camouflage, help with your ICANN accreditation or load your gun for you ![]()

September 5th, 2008 at 5:12 am
Dear Chris,
We are extremely surprised to find that you too have made the mistake of publishing frivolous and defamatory statements, without bothering to verify its truthfulness or accuracy.
Furthermore, you have completely ignored our challenge (http://blog.directi.com) to the Knujon and Hostexploit reports, which shatters the very basis of their claims. In our blog article, we have provided specific details which will at the minimum, give you strong reason to believe that Directi is being made the scapegoat and is unfairly dragged into this story. The plausible reason for victimizing us, is for the sake of enhancing the story’s sensationalism. Think about it - without implicating the likes of ICANN and Directi, Knujon and Hostexploit’s reports wouldn’t have come anywhere close to the traction and exposure it has received to date.
It is unfortunate that you seem to make a false allegation of your own, about LogicBoxes not having an AUP for its service. Well, ever since our inception in 2001, we have a very comprehensive AUP in place, which is duly enforced with every client. A copy of the same will be followed by this post.
Much to the contrary of what you have written, Directi continues to be one of the most proactive players today in terms of combating abuse and implementing strict AUPs. We have a significant investment in terms of manpower and processes to achieve just this. We do so, not because we’re contractually obligated, or to protect our own business interests, but because we sincerely believe in the ideology of making the internet a safer and more secure medium for conducting business. As a matter of fact, we have a ZERO tolerance policy towards unscrupulous activities, and therefore extremely shocked by this incident.
On another note, I request you to understand the limitations registrars and related service providers face in tackling these issues. Despite having a dedicated abuse complaints processing team, it is impossible for us to deploy the necessary resources and expertise to manually authenticate the legal status of each of the 4 million + sponsored domain names. A false positive could lead to a significant loss for an innocent customer, for which we will be squarely responsible. Things get even more difficult when other registrars that use our platform, are less sensitive towards their moral responsibilities. Sure – we’d like to pull the plug and permanently close our business with them, but how does one protect the several hundred thousand innocent website owners that also happen to use their services?
I would also sincerely request you to ensure that in the future when referencing reports of this nature, you extend to the subject, an opportunity to confirm the facts.
We’ll also be glad to clarify your doubts on the above mentioned facts, over a conference call. If you’d like that, do provide us with an appropriate time and number on which you can be reached.
Some of the reputation damage that has been caused as a result of this incident is probably beyond repair. However, I do hope to receive your full support in taking remedial actions for the sake of limiting this damage, and for fulfilling a moral responsibility.
Best Regards,
Sandeep Ramchandani
Strategic Partner Manager - The Directi Group
Tel : +1 (832) 295 1535 Extn: 7624
Fax : +1 (904) 369 0153
September 5th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
…(and whilst Terry is dancing in doorways) …
Rotflmao!!!
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Hi, Thanks for the verbose response. Permit me to comment inline.
I posted some research mostly about EST, some opinion and some links. I welcome further discussion that does not steer away from the point of the post.
Sorry I didn’t ignore it. The post was written the day before your response. We had a few hours of internal delays posting it as the editor is in the USA and I’m in the UK.
Yes, Knujon shook the big tree. He might not have been 100% correct first time but he has highlighted a number of good points that were interesting. In fact my first email response to him was in your defense (in a registrar capacity), whilst I was at that concert. I did my own research at a tangent into the supply chain and the LogicBoxes setup, and discovered for myself how EST’s various registration processes worked via your systems. That I’m afraid is not a scapegoats position.
I am however glad to see your joint response. I still think there is significantly more work to be done.
This is a real opportunity to show that you are willing to listen to the community and deal with troublemakers.
Now that I’d like to see. I couldn’t find on the LogicBoxes website or via google (1,2), I did find something about the not querying the API too much, and having a complaints address however nothing obvious that stated LogicBoxes could at their discretion terminate a relationship for continued abuse.
If it were published prominently the community would help out and quote it at abuse@ staff when making complaints.
If you do have an AUP that covers the LogicBoxes service how come it’s not been used yet? I can still see *new* business spreading downloaders.
I have recognised that with your in-house registrars this is not in dispute.
As for making the internet a safer place, lets be frank for a second and get back to the focus of the post. You guys know the score with ESTDomains and friends but continue to provide them with the service layer for domain management.
I made no complaint about false data as I did not want to muddy the waters of responsibility further because I clearly realise the issues involved.
I’m McAfee’s representative for all domain related matters at the APWG so I do understand the limitations of registries in this area, registrars are a different kettle of fish as they have AUP’s in their arsenal. In much of this abuse I recognised that Directi are not the registrar, they are only the service platform and did my best to stress that point. I’m sure you’re aware that this is exactly where AUP’s and proactive abuse management come in to play. You clearly know what these customers (resellers and registrars) are up to and yet you let them continue to be new business, you can appreciate why the community want to progress this matter further.
Please don’t suggest that domains on bad-guys accounts that have not had complaints are fine. Given that you appear to use an infinite reseller model I assume you can see every individual customer accounts too. The Internet community is not going to fuel your abuse operations, just the reactive abuse operations.
[Readers - do not visit the domains in the next paragraph]
Some examples if I may: If you get a complaint about silafine .com (domain created yesterday) for hosting some malware you need to look at the other domains on the account too (I’m betting on : zowidicen ytujezuruwa orelilukaryd takeworiwu .com being related somehow), rinse and repeat, and ding the reseller/registrar for repeatedly not paying attention too. Thankfully your abuse ops took down the backend for this scam on request, and here is the proof of the pudding they moved to another domain owned by the same guy “seodancer@gmail.com” who also ownes malware-scan.com, spyshredderscanner.com on a different reseller and probably 100 others too, but you have previously suspended powerantivirus .net but not the others including powerantivirus .cc that was registered at the same time?
I’m clearly an advocate here and I don’t doubt the content of my post, but of course I’m willing to discuss the points raised and I’m more than willing to help if you’re taking action.
I’ve left you a message with my direct contact details with your assistant.
Directi’s anti abuse staff also have an invite to the next APWG meeting (Wed/Thur sessions). It’s a great place to discover what the criminals are actually doing and press the flesh with those fighting cybercrime.
I’m inclined to disagree here too. It’s an opportunity to flex that AUP and show your fortitude to protect the the online community. Also you really shouldn’t be worried about reputation if you are confident you’re process is adequately dealing with situations created by black-hat customers before they get to this stage. Acting on the perpetrators will do more good for your reputation in the long run than acting on individual domain complaints.
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