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	<description>Cutting edge security research as it happens.......</description>
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		<title>By: FT Alphaville</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-857031</link>
		<dc:creator>FT Alphaville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;(Stolen) financial data doesn&#8217;t cost much these days...&lt;/strong&gt;

Psst. Are you in the market for a social security number or three, by any chance? How about access to a compromised bank account? It will cost you &#8211; about 6 to 11 cents on the dollar.
At least, that is what the creators of this recently-discovere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>(Stolen) financial data doesn&#8217;t cost much these days&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Psst. Are you in the market for a social security number or three, by any chance? How about access to a compromised bank account? It will cost you &#8211; about 6 to 11 cents on the dollar.<br />
At least, that is what the creators of this recently-discovere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TYRONN</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-525206</link>
		<dc:creator>TYRONN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would  like to know  more about this underground economy
can i know the websites or contacts for acquiring info

email me danstrauss@ureach.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would  like to know  more about this underground economy<br />
can i know the websites or contacts for acquiring info</p>
<p>email me <a href="mailto:danstrauss@ureach.com">danstrauss@ureach.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Sophistication of the Underground Data Economy - Laptop Security Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-466404</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sophistication of the Underground Data Economy - Laptop Security Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Paget of McAfee&#8217;s Avert Labs blog has shared a discovery about the prices going on different &#8220;quality&#8221; levels of data on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Paget of McAfee&#8217;s Avert Labs blog has shared a discovery about the prices going on different &#8220;quality&#8221; levels of data on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: IT Resource &#124; Aussie Bank Account Details Stolen and Sold</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-454196</link>
		<dc:creator>IT Resource &#124; Aussie Bank Account Details Stolen and Sold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] top-quality data for a higher price than usual,” wrote researcher Francois Paget, in the Avert Labs blog.  “Additional information such as PIN and Transfer Pass-phrases are also given when necessary,” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] top-quality data for a higher price than usual,” wrote researcher Francois Paget, in the Avert Labs blog.  “Additional information such as PIN and Transfer Pass-phrases are also given when necessary,” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Opel</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-450892</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Opel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really can also get PINs from  underground websites and this can be proved at court, this could be very helpful to change german iurisdiction, which currently transfers the risk to the consumers, in case money has been stolen with a creditcard and entry of a correct PIN, assuming that the card holder somehow gave access to the PIN (eg. quote on the back of the card). 

Is there a chance to post a link to such a underground website ?

DEUTSCH
Wenn man tatsächlich auch an die PINs kommt und dies vor Gericht dargestellt werden kann, gäbe es vielleicht endlich eine Chance für ein Umdenken in der deutschen Rechtsprechung, die immer wieder die Verbraucher im Regen stehen lässt, wenn mit einer Kreditkarte und Eingabe der richtigen PIN Geld abgehoben wurde.

Gibt es eine Möglichkeit hier einen Link zu einer solchen Site zu posten ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really can also get PINs from  underground websites and this can be proved at court, this could be very helpful to change german iurisdiction, which currently transfers the risk to the consumers, in case money has been stolen with a creditcard and entry of a correct PIN, assuming that the card holder somehow gave access to the PIN (eg. quote on the back of the card). </p>
<p>Is there a chance to post a link to such a underground website ?</p>
<p>DEUTSCH<br />
Wenn man tatsächlich auch an die PINs kommt und dies vor Gericht dargestellt werden kann, gäbe es vielleicht endlich eine Chance für ein Umdenken in der deutschen Rechtsprechung, die immer wieder die Verbraucher im Regen stehen lässt, wenn mit einer Kreditkarte und Eingabe der richtigen PIN Geld abgehoben wurde.</p>
<p>Gibt es eine Möglichkeit hier einen Link zu einer solchen Site zu posten ?</p>
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		<title>By: Wie viel ist das eigene Konto wert? - Akte Abmahnung</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-450567</link>
		<dc:creator>Wie viel ist das eigene Konto wert? - Akte Abmahnung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zugangsdaten zu Bankkonten illegal gekauft werden können, ist nichts neues. Die Spezialisten von McAfee haben in ihrem Blog Preislisten für Bankzugangsdaten veröffentlicht. Je nach Kreditinstitut, Land und Kontostand [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zugangsdaten zu Bankkonten illegal gekauft werden können, ist nichts neues. Die Spezialisten von McAfee haben in ihrem Blog Preislisten für Bankzugangsdaten veröffentlicht. Je nach Kreditinstitut, Land und Kontostand [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Iang</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-446195</link>
		<dc:creator>Iang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work ... watch out for those Austrian kangaroos though, AU is australia :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work &#8230; watch out for those Austrian kangaroos though, AU is australia <img src='http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Little Saturn</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-446112</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Saturn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Pls publish the url where they are being sold. Then it would be easier to sell security to senior management</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Pls publish the url where they are being sold. Then it would be easier to sell security to senior management</p>
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		<title>By: Kostenlos SMS versenden, Free SMS Versand, Gratis SMS schreiben &#187; Blog Archive &#187; McAfee veröffentlicht Preisliste für gestohlene Daten</title>
		<link>http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-446020</link>
		<dc:creator>Kostenlos SMS versenden, Free SMS Versand, Gratis SMS schreiben &#187; Blog Archive &#187; McAfee veröffentlicht Preisliste für gestohlene Daten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 11:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ungewöhnlich hohe Preise anbot&#8221;, schrieb Francois Paget von den McAfee Avert Labs in einem Blogeintrag. &#8220;Wenn man sich die Daten allerdings genauer ansieht, versteht man, dass man für Qualität [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ungewöhnlich hohe Preise anbot&#8221;, schrieb Francois Paget von den McAfee Avert Labs in einem Blogeintrag. &#8220;Wenn man sich die Daten allerdings genauer ansieht, versteht man, dass man für Qualität [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 1 Raindrop</title>
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		<dc:creator>1 Raindrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Price is what you pay, value is what you get...&lt;/strong&gt;

Nice work by Francois Paget (hattip Andrew Jaquith) pulling together underground economy&#039;s willingness to pay up for quality Last Friday morning in France, my investigations lead me to visit a site proposing top-quality data for a higher price than us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Price is what you pay, value is what you get&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Nice work by Francois Paget (hattip Andrew Jaquith) pulling together underground economy&#8217;s willingness to pay up for quality Last Friday morning in France, my investigations lead me to visit a site proposing top-quality data for a higher price than us&#8230;</p>
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